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Oct 4, 2006 21:28:42 GMT -5
Post by Rob G on Oct 4, 2006 21:28:42 GMT -5
HOLY SHIT,
The opening scene of Lost was CRAZY. These mother fuckers have done it again.
So the scientists of the Dharma experiments decided to live on the island and form a social hippy commune. Theres lots of wierd shit cause of all their crazy cutting edge experiments. Thats preatty much the show.
Now they gonna Psychologically break down the captives and eventually build them up to join their community. Sounds right to me. I like how they make Kate so hot for Sawyer but give Sawyer the food. They gonna push them toegther then use them against each other. Good shit.
I knew there was an underwater base ever since I saw that electrical cable running under the water.
LOST IS THE BEST
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Oct 5, 2006 18:08:19 GMT -5
Post by Ken on Oct 5, 2006 18:08:19 GMT -5
I was so disappointed with that season premeir. It was boring, uninteresting, and made me want to stop watching the show completely. If I was jack, I would have killed that lying bitch instantly, then cracked Henry Gale's neck before running out the door. If they killed me then at least I would have gotten a few of them.
I don't know man. This show is in it's third year and still its more confusing than ever. It's starting to get old for me. The next few episodes are going to really make it or break it for me. I'm even fatigued enough to feel too lazy to write more about it.
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Oct 6, 2006 22:39:00 GMT -5
Post by abisai on Oct 6, 2006 22:39:00 GMT -5
I have a love-hate relationship with Lost. I like the idea of guys on an island struggling within their newfound society. But the sci-fi stuff bugs me, because it detracts from the interpersonal stuff and frankly, they never answer shit. It makes you wonder if they actually do not have any causes/reasons/explanations and expect to roll out distractions from these mysteries forever.
I never got how they expect people to believe people survive falling from that high in the sky, blunt trauma alone. Then they never make any attempt to ever walk the island perimeter. If they were on Australia no one would be the wiser. The numbers might as well be 1 800 RED HERRING. The French chick and the monster are apparently playing cards together in the ? hatch watching everyone else on the island. And where does the power for anything come from around there? They never even attempted to follow the cord into the water, there could be any number of things down there other than a lab. I hate that they use names of famous people, what's next Moses and Pharaoh have an argument about who gets to live in the huts? The flashbacks annoy the crap out of me because they do not advance the story and actually distract from it. I don't care about Locke's kidneys, Jack's dad, the bitch's boyfriend, sambo's cousin Timmy, Phil's long lost puppy Alfred, or anything else before the island. But I keep fucking watching, cracking out crazy theories, because it's interesting. It's just so frustrating to take. Is this show actually building a fan base or decreasing it with these techniques? With TiVo and DVD sales I bet they build it because there is no easy way to just jump in there now, but catching up is easy enough. And they rebroadcase online too in case you missed something, I like that.
Anyone ever thought from last year's online fake website clues that the original scientists and/or people in the experiments stumbled upon some imortality/life prolonging shit? Maybe these Others are the original founders? Any reason this could not be?
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Oct 7, 2006 3:23:08 GMT -5
Post by Rob G on Oct 7, 2006 3:23:08 GMT -5
True true true,
But i'm like a little puppy dog and the opening scene last week was the just the bone i needed. I probably wont get another till the season finale. fuckers
Yeah, I considered the whole life extension thing. Them being the OGs of Dharma. Perhaps if they left the island they would start to age. Thats why they remain? But its all madness.
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Oct 7, 2006 9:49:18 GMT -5
Post by Ken on Oct 7, 2006 9:49:18 GMT -5
That opening scene was super-fantastic. The plane blows up, they rush outside to see the plane breaking up. That was insane. But did anybody think they organized themselves a little TOO quickly? I found myself wondering if they were expecting this to happen. Could they have somehow planned this whole event? Could they be from the future? And have come back in time to specifically prepare for this event for some reason?
Howard Stern had the creator of Lost on his show on Sirius a month ago. Stern also likes the show but is also very frustrated with it. He asked the guy point blank, is there a real premise to the show, or did you guys just throw it together, not expoecting it to be so big a hit, and now you are just scrambling to continue to make shows?
So the creator says, "No, there is a definite idea, premise, and direction to the show that he originally came up with." Whatever premise he came up with however, his wife told him that there should be "more than one possible cause for this premise." He agreed with his wife and built in several possible "causes" for the premise, whatever the fuck that may be.
He was very happy with the longevity of the show and continued to say that the more popular it becomes, the longer the show runs, thus the more "stuff" the network has to build into it to continue to make new episodes.
This is comforting, that at least there was an original, underlying idea to the show, but the damn thing has become so freakin' convoluted that I frequently forget the little tidbits of information that I have been thrown. What am I supposed to do, sit there with a clipboard, pen and paper and write down all the hints and clues? I like to be intellectually challenged, but only if I have supreme faith in the people challenging me and I have just about run out of faith with this show.
However, I was just about out of faith at the end of the first season, and the second season re-energized me like crazy, so hopefully the next few episodes will do the same.
Seriously though, wouldn't you guys have cut that bitch's throat if you were Jack? How could he trust her? Just cause she's cute? Gimme a break.
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Oct 8, 2006 1:12:48 GMT -5
Post by ring87 on Oct 8, 2006 1:12:48 GMT -5
I tivoed it so I am a little late. I liked the first episode. Jack got knocked the fuck out. I love that chick she rocks. Zapping Sawyer, and that act she put on. She is going to make a good bad guy/ good guy?
I still don't know if the passengers are "bad" people and the Dharma people "good"....ah i guess it's like real life in that aspect.
I love that wacky Iraqy Sa-heeeed...I'm glad he tortured homeboy now. I guess Jack, Sawyer and Kate are getting the pay-back. Wheres the Negro that shot everyone....?
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Oct 8, 2006 9:57:53 GMT -5
Post by LORD BOOTH on Oct 8, 2006 9:57:53 GMT -5
i think its great that sawyer is in the bear cage and jack is in the shark tank.i hope they get taged with dharma signs and released into the wild.so the jungle animals can stumble across them and wonder what the fuck these strange humans are doing on this island out of their natural enviornment?
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Oct 8, 2006 15:19:29 GMT -5
Post by abisai on Oct 8, 2006 15:19:29 GMT -5
I did not think it at all odd that the Others reacted swiftly, the Island has been hit with this airplane, Desmond's boat, a drug runner's airplane, a boat of French scientists, and a hot air baloon. That's just what I know, I bet there are other cases too. Newcomers are apparently neither rare nor unexpected by the Others.
Jack cutting anyone's throat only makes it more likely he gets some foul treatment back, using her as a hostage is a bargaining chip to getting a little further towards making it out of the lab.
Back to life extensions; the polar bear and the shark had the Dharma marks didn't they? But they ended those experiments years prior right? Or am I making this up as I go along like the writers are?
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Oct 9, 2006 16:34:51 GMT -5
Post by Rob G on Oct 9, 2006 16:34:51 GMT -5
The Book in the book club was Carrie
That could relevent in numerous way. Carrie was teelkinetic and an outcast. She was a child with special powers. She tries to fit in but in the end she destoys the world she aspires to join.
Stephen King has been mentioned before. One thing it makes me think about is the one plot stephen beats to death. "The Shining", over and over again he has children with special powers even when the book is not really about that. Shining, Red Rose, Firestarter, Carrie, etc.
Walt is one of these right.
One thing we do know now is that The Others are not omnipotent. They did not bring the poeple to the island. they dont know about Desmond's sailboat.
I dont think everything is interconnected anymore. I think theres completely seperate crazy things going on. Seprate plots that will be sowed up when its convenient for the show. I know this from DMing that when you get a bunch of completely seperate facotrs going in motion it takes on alife of its own and the effects can not really be studied to determine the causes.
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Oct 11, 2006 18:07:32 GMT -5
Post by Ken on Oct 11, 2006 18:07:32 GMT -5
Lost is on tonight. It better be good. If its not, theres gonna be trouble. Real trouble. The kind of trouble that makes everybody wanna hide under the bed, crawl under the table, cower in the corner.
Yeah. This is my town.
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Oct 11, 2006 21:06:29 GMT -5
Post by abisai on Oct 11, 2006 21:06:29 GMT -5
"My name is Kate, I exist to get captured and to take showers"
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Oct 11, 2006 23:28:05 GMT -5
Post by Rob G on Oct 11, 2006 23:28:05 GMT -5
Good episode, So they picked up on Sayeed and next week we get to see Locke, Eko, and Desmond. I am cool with this. I am so tired of Kate flashing her pussy but never given it up. Jack and Sawyer need to take the pussy. Like Hurley takes blu cheese. Hey, the name on the docks said "Pala Ferry" Heres what i think the relevance of the name is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_%28novel%29SO, Ben has been on the island his whole life. Interesting. How bout Sawyer kicking peoples ass's. I loved when he was breaking it down "That one guy has some martial arts training but I can still take him". BAD ASS. I hope he fucks them all up bad. REAL BAD. Oh yeah, once again the others totally outsmart an ambush. I am getting tired of this shit. Why do the others stay on the island. Maybe cause they are sick people who would die elsewhere. Maybe they sent terminal babies there to live their lives out. I think maybe the island does have sick regenerative powers. To the point where people dont age maybe. But they give the children drugs so they will age. Like clair getting the so called vaccine in her belly. Is that why they take the children. Is that why they dont leave. That means we'll see some dinosaurs too. I love dinoSARS. This would be just the kindof MAD ASS sci-fi plot for endless stories. What about people who have lived on the island for 100's of years. How bout flashback stories to victorian England. What if over time even the dead are regenerated. Could Jacks dad really be there. The return of Ethan Rom and ofcourse my very favorite person BOONE. "Dude, I have come back to stand lifeguard duty. Did you guys find out what was in that hatch?"
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Oct 12, 2006 4:09:05 GMT -5
Post by ring87 on Oct 12, 2006 4:09:05 GMT -5
At this point the story is very open ended and could be taken in any direction. The mini-plots, background story and character interaction has keep the show interesting. The writers are like drug dealers they get you hooked then only give enough to survive. When we get a little frustrated they reveal a little more. They do run the risk of people losing interest if they don't give up enough of the plot. It's a great marketing concept but a razors edge.
The episode was cool. I like Sawyers break down of the guards. But I also like that Ben heard and watch the whole break down. That blond chick is bad ass. She foiled yet another escape plot. The Japs story was alright. They all have secrets and information that would change there characters dynamics if revealed. Exp..The man Jacks wife left him for...The fact that Jin (girl?) cheated on her man and maybe her baby is not her man's (SuN?). The others seem to have access to in depth outside information so perhaps the character can be manipulated as you seen that blond chick do already.
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Oct 12, 2006 7:09:41 GMT -5
Post by Ken on Oct 12, 2006 7:09:41 GMT -5
It's so funny how we all have different perspectives on this show. One thing I have been meaning to say but keep forgetting for two years is how annoyed I am with how Sawyer gets treated on the show. I personally think Sawyer and Echo are the two coolest characters on the show, with Locke coming in at a close second. But I think Sawyer gets treated like shit by the writers. He is always getting beat up, first by Michele Rodriguez, then he gets played by Jack, then Kate, then Kates dog, then the feas on Kate's dog, then he gets thrown into a cage where he has to perform like a circus bear just to get food. This drives me crazy! Finally he gets a chance to beat the shit out of some people last night and I think he's going to do some real damage, but Benjamin the Fag is watching him on television and hears his whole conversation.
Now last week I said that Jack should have killed that lying bitch. If would have killed her, Sawyer would have had no problem last night. I would have turned the gun on those three others and said, "Kill kate, and I kill three of your friends." Then at least there is a Mexican standoff. Personally, I would have turned the gun on that chick, shot her to pieces, and not cared if Kate got a bullet. Poor Sawyer is never gonna get a piece of that pussy anyway. "Maybe if the bitch dies, and wills it to ya, and then, maybe, maybe." (Junior from Platoon).
I am getting very tired of the Others always getting the upper hand. When are the survivors going to realize they are fighting for survival and that makes it OK to shoot these fuckers. Sun should have let loose a whole clip into that chick on the boat.
This is another thing that annoys me, every survivor is like a pussy. They all talk tuff, but don't have the balls to back it up. Only Sayeed seems to be willing to go the distance.
The show didn't reveal enough for me at all. They better get along with this shit, because I'm getting antsy.
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Oct 12, 2006 7:34:02 GMT -5
Post by Rob G on Oct 12, 2006 7:34:02 GMT -5
I was thinking last night that there is a high percentage of bad asses on the show. I mean tough dudes that can beat somebodies ass. I would say 1 in 10 people can actual beat someone up. only 1 in 100 is a certified bad ass. Remember out of 100 theres woman, children, and old folks.
But on this plane, out 40 some odd survivors. Theres a big chunk of bad ass's.
Jack beats the shit out of everyone including the super human Ethan Rom.
John Locke can just immobilise people with ease. When he does punch it sounds like rocks hitting rocks. Remember Charlie
Eko is an african warlord bad ass
Sayeed is a military bad ass
Sawyer is just street tough but again he beat up multiple opponents.
Jin is just a fisherman but has wooped alot of ass in his time.
So right there you have 6 super badasses. And these guys are smart and have balls. WHY CANT THEY EVER GET THE UPPER HAND.
That shit kills me. I need heroes, not incompetent fools. When the bad guys always outsmart them i dont think to myself "Wow these bad guys are really formiddable". I think to myself "This is lame".
Like in horror movies when some bicth runs away all movie only to accidently kill the bad guy in the end. Fuck that.
I need a guy who freaks out, then adapts, and goes full out bad ass, if it gets into his hand, he chops it off and attaches a Chainsaw. Thats what bad asses do.
But like ken said, its time to start killing.
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