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Post by law on Jul 29, 2005 14:55:04 GMT -5
are you ready for some footballlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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Post by Buck on Aug 1, 2005 18:42:31 GMT -5
Has Ring won this season yet?
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Post by Ringleader1 on Aug 1, 2005 20:02:55 GMT -5
First, I would like to encourage you all to donate to the Kyler Ring Christmas fund. ...............More seriously I can't wait because it's such a good time. Team name. Legion of Doom(L.O.D.) or the Nebraska Cornholeio's. "I need T.P. for my bung hole." "Are you threating me?"
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Post by Ken on Aug 12, 2005 10:44:24 GMT -5
So I caught Sportscenter yesterday and saw this crazy developing situation with Terrel Owens. It sounds like the Eagles and Owens are about to launch their nuclear missiles at each other! The Eagles might try to trade Owens, or suspend him. If they try to suspend him, he will take it to court, the Union will get involved and Owens will not play anyway. This is crazy!
Anyone know how this all got started? Any details? This is better than a Michael Jackson trial!
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Post by Ringleader1 on Aug 12, 2005 20:52:52 GMT -5
Owens and Moss are always competing and Moss gets paid more. Owens is paid well its just that this is the second year in his contract and this year he makes less than about 5 or 6 other recievers because of the way it is structured. After his performance last year he thinks he deserves more. I don't know where I stand. There is no loyalty these days and your word is not bond either. If he was sucking the Eagles would droop him real quick. He performed very well so I say give him more money. However, a contract is in writing so.....I just hope he plays.
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Post by abisai on Aug 13, 2005 0:04:10 GMT -5
I see the point of the contracts being binding only for the players since the team can literally tear up the contract if they want to. But damn, renegotiating after one year is wild. I completely understand one of the top two guys wanting top two salary for his position. But that should have been addressed before he ever put an Eagles uniform on. It sounds like the team is not going to trade or negotiate, leaving Owens to either sit out or play angry. Both are bad. But if I were the Eagles I would do the same thing.
Something about this scenario did make me think of Deion Sanders. Basically football guys never get to promote themselves of their names apart from the team unless they do outlandish things, like play another sport of cut an album. Doing sit-ups in the parknig lot for the media is crazy promotion for the T.O. brand logo, which can help him increase his name value to the advertising dollar. I don't know if this is even a consideration on either the player or the agent's part but they have to know that this puts his name in the ink like crazy, which promotes him more than showing up daily without saying a word and playing his ass off in training camp.
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Post by Rob G on Aug 13, 2005 2:20:54 GMT -5
Ring is right. This year Owens will only make about 4 million. The best wide recievers make between 6 and 7 a year. But its like ring said its just this year. Last year he made about 10 million, more then any other reciever. Next year he will make 10 million also which will still be the highest and on par with the best players at any position. Averaged over the 3 years thats 8 million a year. More then anyone except Moss. But Moss got lucky.
Heres the deal as I understand it.
First off NFL contracts are not even contracts under the definition of the word. Like Buck said the teams can void a contract at anytime. The only money you definatly get is the signing bonus.
But the contracts are structured by the brilliant agent in such a way that if a team voids a contract in the first 3 years they take a massive salary cap hit. So for the most part the first 3 years of a contract are preatty much garanteed. But the brilliant Owners make the contracts back heavy. More money at the ending years of which players are not likely to see.
This is why I say Moss got lucky. Back in 2001 Moss signed the baddest ass contract ever signed by a wide reciever. An average of about 8 million over 8 years with an astonishing 12 million dollar signing bonus. This amazing contract is still untouched by any recent signings including Torre Holt, Marvin Harrison, and Terrell Owens. No one expected Moss to get the end of this contract but hes going to. The Raiders picked up his contract which is now in its 5th year and into the back heavy payments. So for the next 4 years Moss is gonna earn an average of 9 million a year.
I'm sure thats killing Owens especially since this year Owens is only gonna make 4 million.
But bottom line is he signed the contract.
I can except alot of manuvering. Its all part of the business. But enough is enough.
The eagles wont trade him though. The best thing for the eagles would be to give him what he wants but they cant do that now, I wouldn't.
Through all this the one outstanding thing I see is the class of Donovan Mcnabb. This dude is all class and business. He is the leader of that team. He took the eagles to 3 consecutive championship games WITHOUT OWENS. They basically picked up Owens so they could win the championship game and go to superbowl. But what happened last year. They got to the championship game and Owens was hurt. They won it WITHOUT HIM.
I just pray the Eagles do the right thing and stand their ground.
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Post by CHEEZETWO on Aug 13, 2005 18:07:59 GMT -5
SOME FANTASY NEWS TRAVIS HENRY GOES TO THE TITANS FOR UNDISCLOSED COMPENSATION AT THIS TIME STEALING POSSIBLY THE STARTING SPOT FROM CHRIS BROWN
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Post by Ringleader1 on Aug 14, 2005 9:20:22 GMT -5
Henry won't do squat 3rd stringer at best. This is posibly the best year for J-boy to pick all Raiders 1. Moss 2. Collins 3. Porter 4. L Jordan ...thats all you need.
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Post by LORD BOOTH on Aug 14, 2005 11:45:33 GMT -5
owens could be the worst thing to happen to football since roughing the passer.he is the reason agents and free-agency look bad.if you want to get paid the most for doing your job than you should atleast be the best at it.not only is moss better but wile owens spends his time blaming his quaterbacks for his own under acheving(garcia for not reaching him,and mcnabb for not winning the superbowl)moss is taking washed-up hasbeen quaterbacks and taking them to the probowl with career numbers.and to top the shit cake with a cherry when jerry rice comes out and talk shit about you know you are a total assclown.
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Post by Ringleader1 on Aug 14, 2005 19:02:51 GMT -5
Word to T.O. mother.
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Post by abisai on Aug 14, 2005 22:54:41 GMT -5
I never liked T.O. because he basically forced living legend Jerry Rice out of San Francisco only to end up bitching about SF and leaving anyway. Rice should have retired a 49er instead of living on the road like he is doing now.
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Post by Ringleader1 on Aug 15, 2005 8:04:39 GMT -5
Life is cruel for an old millionaire superstar. Poor Jerry, Poor T.O. ....Is it the first of the month yet?
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Post by LORD BOOTH on Aug 15, 2005 16:23:29 GMT -5
i hate t.o. but rice not retiring isnt his fault.he is the best ever but if he doesent stop soon he will start tarnishing his reputation.i dont think he even wants to keep playing,i think he is using it as a cover to search every nfl stadium in hopes to find his long lost hairline.
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Post by abisai on Aug 15, 2005 17:18:33 GMT -5
Mad funny Booth. I agree he is about toasted, using all his turbo speed up from hitting the z button so many times. I would not have minded the Niners forcing him out when he was older like now, but back then you could tell he still had heart and spirit combined with the wits and ability to maintain upper league talented routes for a few more years. That was not the time, shifting him to #2 maybe, but not giving up on him like an old dishrag found behind the refrigerator. Emmitt on the other hand did himself no favors hanging around like a Fred Torres fart in a cramped room with no escape or draft. I think the Cowboys did him right and even giving him a one day contract to retire a Cowboy was a total class act. Not that I like Emmitt or the Cowboys one bit, but it was cool. Imagine Favre retiring a Seahawk? That is what I think of Rice moving out of SF.
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