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Post by LORD BOOTH on Jun 10, 2005 21:12:50 GMT -5
anyone born with a semi-functional brain could never belive our government is not racist.they are racist,we are racist,humans are generaly racist.admit it or not almost every single person i have ever even held a conversation with(friend or not)is a racist.maby 1 out of every 50 people i meet might not be racist.but i will it is easier to give billions of dollars that is not yours to begin with to a continent full of black people than it will be to allow one of their daughters to date one black man here.ore the unthinkable,have a half black grandchild.
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Post by Rob G on Jun 11, 2005 3:01:41 GMT -5
Ah, The racism issue, lets get down and dirty:
I agree with Booth that most people are racist. But on a larger scale most people are generally desciminitive about every thing.
The minority will alwats suffer. Just as the white people do now in South Africa. I cry out in sympathy for my white brothers and sisters suffering over there.
Race is some old bullshit anyhow. To declare someone of similr complexion your brother is no less ignorant then to desciminate against those of differing complexion.
I myself maintain an average amount of healthy racism. But I sure would not hesitate to tap Janet jackson. And if that rendered me up a little mulado son I would instruct him as i would all others. The world is a cruel place and people are generally selfish and evil. All you can do is carve out a nitch for your family and friends and protect them against the wicked.
But everybody is fucking everyboidy these days. Soon there wont be no whit eor black. Just tan with slightly chinky eyes. But it wont matter though for the nature of man will still be the same and there will simply bve a new minotiry. Maybe those with light hair or big feet.
I say be racist. Dont trust no one that dont look like you. But dont just limit your self to racial descriminitaion. Dont trust females. Dont trust no one with more or less money then you. They all out to get you.
To get back to the original idea. here. We all racist for sure.Both political parties are even more racist then average. But republicans are more racist. The democrats are willing to accept the black agenda and latino agenda in order to gain their votes. If your darker then me then Democratic is your party. Hows that for a recruitment speech.
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Post by abisai on Jun 11, 2005 10:13:49 GMT -5
I just deleted a post about how racist the South is. I don't want to discourage you guys from visiting here or lead you to believe I am buying their worldview now that I live here.
Yes, people as individuals can have racist thoughts about other groups of people. But the government is set up with laws governing a level playing field regardless of race. Strom can talk about hating black people all he wants to, but he has to respect their rights or face prosecution. Jesse can talk about giving benefits to blacks and not other ethnicities, but he has to respect all races or face prosecution.
I think race will become like nationality, remembered as a past social aspect coming to be irrelevant within American society. Russians and Irish people has as much in common as Jamaicans and Africans have as much in common as Brazilians and Cubans do. But the present mode is do lump by skin tone. I beleive skjn tones will continue to mix and intertwine to make a complete sepctrum of Derek Jeters and Colin Powells to make race irrelevant since it will take too much investigation to learn the roots for it to be relevant. Like we don't care what Mariah Carey is, no one does, they just see nice videos with big ass boobs. Fat ass. Giggling. Hoo-HA!
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Post by LORD BOOTH on Jun 11, 2005 11:30:27 GMT -5
race is bullshit,when we are all mixed and look exactly alike people will just find other reasons to hate someone.alot of people say they are "pure white"or"pure black"and are verry proud of this.i find it to be hilarious.most people i know have a little tanto in them and i will bet more than a few are more closely related to kunta or good old g.washington than they know,admit or choose to accept.as far as racists go i disagree with them but i dont care if you are or not just dont fuck with me or i will kick your fucking head in.on the other hand i respect those who dont front and let it be known how they feel more than those who for example say they have black friends but when a black person walks past them on the street they clench their purse or think the worst of them,rather than realize that they are more than likley just on their way someplace.anyway when it all comes down to it im me,your you and nobody else is.we are all individuals and when the shit hits the fan my people are my people regardless of their race or their own racism and if you got my back i got yours.
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Post by Ringleader1 on Jun 11, 2005 11:31:31 GMT -5
Hey, my baby is brown with chinky eyes. My woman is no Mariah but she has big boobs and a fatttt....ass. Racism is so done. So what, everyone hates people who don't have any respect for others or act in an obnoxious way. Be they spooks, chinks, wetbacks, pasty redheaded Irishmen, or even oreo's that look like giant mexicans. I just wish people would get there shit together. There is no time for racisim. I'm freaking 32 already. As far as party racism. Thats straight bull. Both parties use whatever means available to secure votes. The latest appointee Bush is pushing is another Black women for the circuit court of appeals the second highest court system. Traditionaly, Democrates want to give people welfare and Republicans want the same people to go to work. If you had a choice to work at Micky D's or smoke blunts at home and get paid the same who would you vote for. Republicans are the party of religious right. I would not consider those people to be pro racism, though they might be secretly? I think the major issue are economics because the hold the key to solving the country/ worlds problems. Unfortunatly, I think politicians are more concerned with re-election and maintaining social class lines than solving problems. Check out these Howard Dean remixes: politicalhumor.about.com/b/a/059035.htm
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Post by larry g on Jun 12, 2005 19:33:55 GMT -5
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Post by abisai on Jun 13, 2005 11:11:18 GMT -5
Howard Dean is fun for morning radio and message boards. But is he even a real politician? Just asking, what is racist about the government? Not the people that are politicians, not the parties that they belong to, the actual laws and policies on the books. Not classist, racist. Most these guys will give you a complete blowjob and a finger in the asshole too if you donate or can further their political cause, regardless of race. Like Bush totally bending over in front of any Arab that lands on US soil and then appearing on camera afterwards holding their hands like their little boy-toy. Larry actually found a great article about something that we should all care about, related to where our tax dollars are being spent. Since the elections are over and the liberals don't post here anymore, I am jumping on their ship and throwing stones at the conservatives a little. This article and others like it address something fundamental. Businesses want free trade when it benefits their lobbying and revoke it when it does not directly benefit them. Airlines called in the federal government to break unions (a free trade practice) but then turned around with their hands out for bankruptcy to avoid paying out their employees pensions and a federal payment they claimed was needed to sustain them post- 9/11. Having their cake and eating it too. Politicians are currently trying to get China to take their currency off benchmarking it with US currency which is tending to devalue Chinese goods presently (not free trade, since not free market for currency) and further imbalance the trade. Politicians will also subsidize large portions of our aggrarian market so as to not devalue our crops in the market (not free trade) and keep pricing and revenues up for sustaining the US farmers. Media outlets want free speech and access to all avenues of public information (free trade), but also want to capitalize on their share of ownership by purchasing radio, television, and print media to as great a % as Congress will allow - recently increased, creating oligopolies (not free trade) in the hands of a few titans in the industry. Like in Poughkeepsie where their is one Cable company and two radio corporations that lobby against expanding the market entry of new media organizations and set their own pricing within the market as they see fit without regard to market forces of otherwise freely entered industries. Movie producers lobby for their rights respected in other countries and lobby hard to avoid Internet practices of sharing that could all be viewed as free trade (like their opposition of new technological developments of VCR and DVD recording devices), but they oppose federal hands dipping into their self-imposed MPAA rating systems. Here is a link to my company dealings to avoid free trade by extending product patents and banning internation trade of pharmaceuticals: www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.asp?ID=D000000133&Name=GlaxoSmithKlineIn other news I caught a discussion on TV that claimed we spend like $7 billion enforcing and prosecuting marijuana and could stand to gain $7 billion in marijuana taxes for a $14 billion windfall if the crop were legalized on par with alcohols and tobacco. PS welcome back Larry.
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Post by abisai on Jun 13, 2005 11:12:27 GMT -5
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Post by Rob G on Jun 13, 2005 14:48:19 GMT -5
Buck, you have the best online resources.
I think Dean is real politician. i like him. He just never read the book on "how a politician should act". With rules like.
1)Never take a stance on anything cause he with a positon may be forced to defend it.
2)never speak above 30 decimals for you may scare people.
3)Never become excited or raise your arms above the waste.
Dean was really doing some shit in the primaries. Until he gave a speech where he got exicted and yelled something similar to "Yee-Ha"
All the news organizatiosn repored this like he was some kind of lunitici who screams and yells and maybe emotionally unstable. Insane.
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Post by larry g on Jun 13, 2005 16:26:17 GMT -5
thats true dean was a victum of the overwhelming conservsative press in this country. what ever happened to the liberal press,where did they go. dean was the probally the best democrat for the job, a little to liberal for my tastes but on most points i agree with this man.
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Post by Ringleader1 on Jun 19, 2005 17:01:22 GMT -5
I think for every one conservative News Paper there is 3 liberal ones. This is especially true in New York. I think it is unfair to associate all republicans to with fraudulent policies and practices. Democrats have had their fair share of problems as well (White Water, intrest groups....blah.blah). All politicians suck to say that one group sucks more is just a pointless stone throw. Plenty of good people are republicans not evil power mongers and to generalizes the vast majority of people who favor a party is ridiculous. P.S. This is not an attack and if someone makes this personal I know where you live
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Post by abisai on Jun 19, 2005 17:34:55 GMT -5
Dean was as much a victim of his own lack of control as his party's internal conflicts during the primaries. Others stood to gain from making him their whipping boy and they trumped that up as much as their cronies could. But they could not have done so, nor could Republicans pundits have gone on record inviting the DNC to run Dean, if Dean had not demonstrated himself to be a loose cannon. Recent remarks reinforce this public record. Distancing white Christians from yourself and party is a disservice to yourself and party in a nation of white Christians. We all know what he was trying to say about monolithic parties, but the man is a professional speaker at this point he cannot let himself get caught saying things that can so very easily be taken out of context.
Also, I agree with practically everything Ringleader1 said in his last post, especially "All politicians suck". Except the part about where people live. You cats can't find me!
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Post by Ringleader1 on Jun 19, 2005 20:35:37 GMT -5
It would have made no difference Kerry or Dean. Bush has made an ass out of himself many times. I might go as far as to say that he is the worst public speaker in Presidential history. I also don't like the way he represents the U.S. at this time. 9/11 the war the rhetoric (book title idea); there was a chance for the Democrats to step up and take the presidency. Instead they lose big. I myself liked McCain better than all of the other candidates. But thats ancient history, all of the crack-pot websites, (Bush watch, the Onion) can't change that. Bush is an easy target, everybody knows that, so what, it's over, look to the future. Herbs like Screaming Dean and Frankenstein Kerry will not win the day. I tell you honestly I will vote for the best candidate regardless of party. I like Lieberman a little and Bill Bradley is not half bad. Hell, if the republicans run Chaney I might vote for Mrs Clinton. If Rudy runs I will vote for him.
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Post by Ringleader1 on Jun 19, 2005 20:45:10 GMT -5
Buck, I can find you. Your address will be easy. I'm sure your parents would oblige. After that, I am an excellent map reader and expert marksmen with a 9mm. Hell, if I get in the Newburgh armory (not that hard) I'll steal a tank and snipe you from here via satellite. Thank you Republican war machine .
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Post by abisai on Jun 20, 2005 13:40:30 GMT -5
If the pizza man has a hard time finding my apartment and he has been here before, finding me may not be so easy for you. Jokes aside, I have viewed my place from the satellite photography available on certain sites like Google images and it is pretty cool to be able to do that.
Just a question: if the best candidate is a third party candidate, why not vote for him?
In old news my favorite non-Nader candidate was Wesley Clark. In current news, Porter Goss is acting stupid. If you know where Osama is or have any idea, why act not act on it instead of cryptic newspaper interviews? This only serves to make us look bad for either being weak (not invading) or incorrect (not being able to say with certainty anything). Imperial Hubris the book referenced the DC upper managers in CIA doing things like this that are counterproductive and I think this is a big example. Porter Goss, you are the weakest link! Goobye.
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