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Post by Rob G on Feb 29, 2004 5:56:53 GMT -5
I'm still voting Jboy. I wonder if DKB is possibly considering Nader again.
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Post by DKB on Feb 29, 2004 12:56:40 GMT -5
No doubt. Third party voter here. As I have yet to gain the necessary 10,000 signatures to get on the ballot (9,999 short) I will likely vote Nader. Mostly entirely because he represents a stark change and not because I think he would win, ever.
I live in NC, so my vote for either of the main parties would not be so relevant either way. But a showing towards a third party counts much more.
But Nader is running Independent instead of Green which means he is abandoning the platform he once held? Wierd deal, but I guess people still blame him for Al Gore being impersonable and unelectable in Florida.
Whenever I hear Kerry speak I think to myself 'this is the guy the Democrats want to run'. He sucks. Total cheeseball trying to pull the I am in the lead and can only lose by holding firmer opinions and saying stronger things, so all I will do is talk around things and criticize GW. I mean, when Al Sharpton is making better points because you are afraid of losing voters, something is very very wrong with the process.
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Post by Rob G on Mar 1, 2004 11:19:00 GMT -5
Agreed on Kerry, I mean there is 95% chance thats who i'll vote for. But yeah, he does kindof stink. Of the guys left i do like him the best. BUt he was like my 6th choice. Oh well. I dont even know why its down to him and edwards. They basically say the same stuff just kerry says it like an adult.
ALERT: I read it in paper today that Bush might drop chaney and pick up Guiliani as his running mate. In my eyes this could seal the deal for Bush.
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Post by abisai on Mar 1, 2004 18:51:50 GMT -5
Being near NYC, the media hub of the world and all major media networks, you guys hear all these great rumors that never make it down here. Usually I notice this in sports references (like when Woody told me Mets were going to try and sign Soriano). But Rudy for VP is unfreaking believable. My only doubt is this: if he couldn't cut the mustard when it got hot in a senatorial race, how could he handle running nationally?
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Post by The Nasinator on Mar 4, 2004 16:42:40 GMT -5
When I read that the Republican Party was considering tapping Guiliani for the vice presidency, I was psyched. It’s a brilliant move. Unfortunately, I think this was just a little wishful thinking. There hasn’t been much talk in the papers of this actually coming about, and Guiliani has been pretty much tight-lipped about his political future since he was diagnosed with prostate cancer.
It was the prostate cancer that kept him out of the senatorial race. Many people in New York were extremely disappointed when he dropped out of the race because now Hillary was a sure thing to get voted in and of course, she did.
Guiliani has alluded that his days in politics are not over and I think that his next likely course of action is to usurp Hillary and serve in the Congress for a term or two while he tries to figure out if he wants to go onto bigger and better things, i.e. the presidency or vice-presidency.
On the other hand, maybe the vice-presidency would suit him now, considering the cancer may have brought him face-to-face with his maker, so to speak. Either way, Guiliani is a very intriguing possibility.
If G.W. was smart, he would get rid of Chaney and distance himself from all the controversy surrounding Halliburton. It will only bite him in the arse during his campaign.
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Post by abisai on Mar 4, 2004 19:42:58 GMT -5
If G.W. was smart, he would get rid of Chaney and distance himself from all the controversy surrounding Halliburton. It will only bite him in the arse during his campaign. I totally agree. Saw Guiliani on Daily Show with Jon Stewart and he said he called Kerry when he was diagnosed and they talked cancer as they both had the same form of it. Also said he's been friends with Cheney for 25 years and could never take his job. Yup, he's ready to play ball again it sounds like. I wish he would dethrone Billary in NY Senate seat, I despise that canniving biatch. Has Kerry announced his running mate yet or did Edwards already seal the deal? You would think, but these guys always pull some guy out of a hole and ta-da Dan Qualye becomes Vice President. Yada yada yada.
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Post by The Nasinator on Mar 5, 2004 11:52:42 GMT -5
I didn’t know that Guiliani and Cheney were friends. That’s interesting to know. I haven’t heard of Kerry picking a running mate yet. It would be logical for him to ask Edwards but I’m not sure Edwards is interested in being Vice president. Only time will tell. Anybody know when the Democratic National Convention is and where? The big annoying news of the day seems to be GW’s re-election campaign ads. The ads show very brief scenes depicting the aftermath of 9/11 and a caption following that America is turning a corner. Basically the ad depicts GW as leading the US through this time of trouble, a seemingly innocuous campaign ad. However, Democrats are jumping all over these commercials screaming that the president doesn’t have the right to use footage of this tragedy for his re-election bid. I say POPPYCOCK! Why would the president have any compunction about these ads? He was the President during one of the worst attacks, tragedies, and political upheavals during our country’s history. People will look back in history and attribute this to his presidency. Why not talk about it? This isn’t exploitation of the victims, President Bush was directly involved in steering our country on a new path of foreign policy because of it. He deals with the aftermath every single day, from the war in Iraq, to Afghanistan, to the war on terror, to dealing with the political backlash of the event itself. Although he didn’t lose any family members at the WTC, one can argue that for him the effects are at least as long lasting as any victims as he will be labeled with the stigma of the event, how he handled it and if he failed or was successful in its aftermath. This supposed controversy is just another pathetic nit-picking extravaganza by the liberals to discredit GW. Jeez, stop wasting our time on this. I have to know how Ashcroft’s gall bladder stones are doing.
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Post by Rob g on Mar 5, 2004 12:02:37 GMT -5
I'm pissed now. Look out.
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Post by Rob g on Mar 5, 2004 12:03:44 GMT -5
Being near NYC, the media hub of the world and all major media networks, you guys hear all these great rumors that never make it down here. Yes, I alway did think of myself as the HUB OF THE WORLD.
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Post by The Nasinator on Mar 5, 2004 12:06:38 GMT -5
POPPYTHINGY?
NO! POPPYCOCKKE!
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Post by The Nasinator on Mar 5, 2004 12:07:43 GMT -5
POPPYCAUCK?
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Post by Rob g on Mar 5, 2004 12:20:22 GMT -5
I didn’t know that Guiliani and Cheney were friends. That’s interesting to know. I haven’t heard of Kerry picking a running mate yet. It would be logical for him to ask Edwards but I’m not sure Edwards is interested in being Vice president. Only time will tell. Anybody know when the Democratic National Convention is and where? The big annoying news of the day seems to be GW’s re-election campaign ads. The ads show very brief scenes depicting the aftermath of 9/11 and a caption following that America is turning a corner. Basically the ad depicts GW as leading the US through this time of trouble, a seemingly innocuous campaign ad. However, Democrats are jumping all over these commercials screaming that the president doesn’t have the right to use footage of this tragedy for his re-election bid. I say POPPYthingy! Why would the president have any compunction about these ads? He was the President during one of the worst attacks, tragedies, and political upheavals during our country’s history. People will look back in history and attribute this to his presidency. Why not talk about it? This isn’t exploitation of the victims, President Bush was directly involved in steering our country on a new path of foreign policy because of it. He deals with the aftermath every single day, from the war in Iraq, to Afghanistan, to the war on terror, to dealing with the political backlash of the event itself. Although he didn’t lose any family members at the WTC, one can argue that for him the effects are at least as long lasting as any victims as he will be labeled with the stigma of the event, how he handled it and if he failed or was successful in its aftermath. This supposed controversy is just another pathetic nit-picking extravaganza by the liberals to discredit GW. Jeez, stop wasting our time on this. I have to know how Ashcroft’s gall bladder stones are doing. GW using the firemen is terrible. The worst. Its exploitation to the fullest. Now i relise thats what politicans do but 9/11 should be left alone. I guess there was made beef to cause they were not NYC firemen. GW is slime. Now if he wanted to do something with soldiers that would be fine. Or better yet how bout an add where hes surrounded by dead soldiers. Yeah. Last election bush did not even wait for the military vote. Now hes making sure theres as little military vote as possible. I am being a little silly here. I also saw Guilani on Jon Stewart. He refuses to talk any smack and has nothig but good things to say about anybody. I agree with you fine men that cheney has to go and i think he will. Guilani would virtually seal the eleection and give the rep's a great shot of 12 more years as executive. If Guilani ran i would probably have to vote for him as pres, not as vice pres. Howver though Guiliani is a republican hes always been a mass appeal guy. Unlike George POLARIZING Bush. It would be weird but interesting. Guiliani says he aint running and cheney is his best buddy but i nthink hes bullshotten. They are just gonna hold off for a few months and then drop the bomb. The Democratic convention is in late july in boston this year. I have no idea who Kerry's gonna pick as VP. All things point to edwards but kerry himself does not seem to favor this. My dad says kerry gonna pick that senator with 1 arm and 1 leg. I still think theres a chance for hillary clinton. I think this whole thing got huge real fast. Now its gonna be a while before anything important happens.
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HANG BUSH FROM THE FLAG POLE
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Post by HANG BUSH FROM THE FLAG POLE on Mar 6, 2004 9:03:44 GMT -5
SO NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT. WE SEE NOW WHY BUSH WAS SO QUICK TO GET TO GROUND ZERO. I MEAN IT WAS DAMNED IF YOU DO DAMNED IF YOU DONT SO HE HAD TO BE THERE AT THE TIME. BUT NOW IT IS ALL ABOUT THE VOTES. TO USE SEPT 11 IN ANY FORM IS EVIL.
THIS IS WHY I SAY THAT. MY WIFE WATCHES THIRD WATCH,AND THE LAST ONE IF YOU SAW OR KNOW ABOUT IT AT ALL THE BLACK PARAMEDIC "DOC" GOES INTO THE FIREHOUSE AND SHOOTS THE NEW CAPTAIN WHATEVER BUT THEN ALL THE PEOPLE GET INTERVIEWED AND BASICALLY THEY MAKE OUT TO BE THE SIDE EFFECTS OF SEPT 11.
SO NOW HAVE WE PASSED THE GRIEVING TIME FRAME AND ITS TIME TO START CASHING IN ON IT AS BUSH IS GOING TO DO WITH HIS COMMERCIALS.(VOTE WISE ANYWAY). I MEAN DID HE PICK UP A SHOVEL OR DIG THROUGH THE DEBRY. NO HE DIDNT EVEN HAD OUT WATER. HE WAS THERE FOR THE CAMERAS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE. ITS JUST A SAD SHAME AND I HOPE A PLANE CRASHES INTO HIS CARPOOL.
LETS PUT IT THIS WAY AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I AM WAY OFF LINE.
100,000 JEWS ARE PISSED ABOUT A MOVIE DEPICTING CHRIST 2000 YEARS AGO. HOW DO YOU THINK VICTIMS OF THE ATTACKS FEEL ABOUT SEEING THIS AND IT WAS ONLY 3 YEARS AGO.
I WOULD HAVE TO VOTE FOR KERRY. I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIM BUT I KNOW BUSH DOESNT CARE ABOUT THE ENVIROMENT, SOCIAL SECURITY, OR LAND CONSERVATION.
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Post by abisai on Mar 6, 2004 16:11:32 GMT -5
LETS PUT IT THIS WAY AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I AM WAY OFF LINE. 100,000 JEWS ARE PISSED ABOUT A MOVIE DEPICTING CHRIST 2000 YEARS AGO. HOW DO YOU THINK VICTIMS OF THE ATTACKS FEEL ABOUT SEEING THIS AND IT WAS ONLY 3 YEARS AGO. On point. I agree Bush has the right to wave around 9/11 and I also agree that it is in poor taste. I would also add it is poor taste for Edwards to talk about whose son he is more than anything and for Kerry to put his military record up when that involves a war killing 50,000 Americans and which he rallied against publicly and in Congress as soon as he was on American soil. GO NADER.
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Post by The Nasinator on Mar 10, 2004 16:26:44 GMT -5
It seems that there is a tremendous amount of people annoyed and offended at GW’s political ads featuring 9/11. This amazes the hell out of me. Sept. 11th is in the daily consciousness and conversations of every breathing American. Ignoring Sept. 11th is the epitome of the white elephant in the room. It’s there; everyone can see it, hear it, smell it and taste its nasty, vile breath. It is absolutely absurd not to acknowledge it! As a matter of fact, its juvenile not to acknowledge its presence, the effect it has already had on our country, its people and its politics. It is continually juvenile not to acknowledge that horrendous day in this upcoming election.
And guess what? It’s not out of the realm of possibility that it may continually be brought up throughout several more elections, i.e. who voted for the war in Iraq, defense spending, CIA appropriations, etc.
I understand all too well the ramifications of 9/11. Rob’s mom was in the towers and she WAS/IS a second mom to me. When Rob called me that day and told me she was in the towers, I cried. I felt severe, extreme loss. Not as much as our friends did that day, but it was there.
I wonder if those who are upset about the ads are still in some state of shock in that they are refusing to admit 9/11 took place. All this outrage seems to me misplaced, misguided and worthless. If you don’t like GW, come up with some good arguments. There are plenty out there.
As for exploitation? Maybe more like defense. A lot of people don’t like our current foreign policy but many don’t remember what helped us embark on that course. It’s a shame GW has to justify his actions (foreign policy) but don’t forget to admit to yourself, honestly, if you supported GW just after 9/11. If you did, like 95% of all Americans, then we’re all guilty. Scapegoat GW if you need to help clear your own conscience.
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