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Post by spiderfate on Oct 19, 2010 23:29:44 GMT -5
i disagree, the conservative traitor pigs want nothing more then the destruction of America and to corrupt true Christian values. Democrats are the the defenders of Liberty, the middle class, and of environment. Liberals are the true disciples of Christ.
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Post by Ken on Oct 22, 2010 17:33:32 GMT -5
Jeez Brian, whenever you come on and talk politics you say the same thing, "Both parties are the same, it doesn't matter, blah blah blah." Offer up something will ya?
Here's something. The perfect example of how liberals try to limit free speech under the guise of Larry's exalted "political correctness." Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg, two leaders of the liberal left, running off the stage and limiting Bill O'Reilly's speech because he has a differing opinion from theirs. Hmmmm. Not surprising. And oh wait, here's another example, NPR, that bastion of the liberal extreme leftist fringe lunatics fired Juan Williams because he had an opinion that differs from the Liberal Left Agenda. And he's BLACK! So not only do liberals try to limit our speech, but now they're RACIST too. Gee, who is limiting free speech? Who's racist? Looks like Larry Lunchmeat and the liberal lunatic lefties!!!
And just so I don't put too much effort into this post, here's Bill O'Reilly's new article to put a little emphasis on the whole thing.
View to a Kill By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com Thursday, October 21, 2010
Now that I've had a week to think about the big controversy on The View, I've come to the conclusion that my comment "Muslims killed us on 9/11" was really not what caused Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar to walk off the set. No doubt that pithy piece of analysis ticked them off, but there is more to this deal than meets the eye.
Keeping in mind that I could be wrong about my speculation, let's walk through this. I've been on The View a number of times and usually things are lively but under control. Sometimes we even have some laughs. But when I entered the studio last week, I picked up a different vibe, especially from Ms. Goldberg. I even mentioned it when I walked out, telling Whoopi she didn't look happy to see me. She replied that she had gas. Sometimes, I have that effect on people.
The conversation was centered on my book Pinheads and Patriots: Where You Stand in the Age of Obama. From the jump, Ms. Behar seemed offended that I mentioned the president's falling poll numbers; in fact, a chill descended that would have made Frosty the Snowman nervous.
The ladies quickly disposed of the economy as a "Bush problem," but became agitated when I put forth that Mr. Obama had created a gulf between him and some regular Americans. I backed up my analysis by saying the president's refusal to comment on the "wisdom" of building a mosque near Ground Zero was a mistake. Ms. Goldberg asked why. I replied that the mosque location was inappropriate, because "Muslims killed us on 9/11."
That caused Ms. Goldberg and Ms. Behar to head for the locker room, and it wasn't even halftime.
Believe me when I tell you that I had no idea the conversation was going to end up like that. I simply went on that program to reach an audience that might not watch me on the Fox News Channel. Plus, The View gave away my book to all the people in the audience. Plus, I got a banana and juice in the green room.
When the ladies walked out in a huff, I was surprised but kind of pleased, I have to be honest. I knew that everybody would see the incident on the Internet and that I could milk a number of segments for my TV program. Seemed like a good deal to me at the time and, looking back, I think the display had as much to do with President Obama's declining fortunes as it did with Muslims.
But as it turns out, an important point has emerged from all of this. Political correctness was breached, and millions of folks heard the truth. Muslims did kill us on 9/11, and there is a Muslim problem in the world.
If you want to walk away from that truth, I can't stop you. But a better strategy would be for all of us to acknowledge the danger coming out of the Muslim world and work together to mitigate it.
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Post by Rob G on Oct 23, 2010 12:48:07 GMT -5
So rob doesn’t pay taxes. Nice cheap shot ken. Its only a matter of time before you take it to this place. And I was barely involved in this debate. If we cant discuss these things without getting personal then we should just not do it all. I know you need people to pay taxes for your Government socialized tax payer funded job but I am doing the best I can to get by.
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Post by Ken on Oct 23, 2010 16:16:05 GMT -5
I was waiting for EXACTLY this post! EXACTLY! Its ALWAYS MY FAULT when this shit hits the fan! ALWAYS!!! Take a look at your brother and throw some blame HIS way for a CHANGE ROB! He's only been posting INFLAMMATORY INSULTS FOR MONTHS! All I said is that you don't pay taxes! Dear old bro has said I have BALLS ON MY CHIN!!!! Not really much of a comparison is there?
But then again, when it comes to the Gault brothers, the lone Nasi is ALWAYS WRONG!! This shit is gettin old.
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Post by spiderfate on Oct 23, 2010 17:41:53 GMT -5
yeah but im on the side of the angels.
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Post by spiderfate on Oct 23, 2010 18:22:44 GMT -5
Oh so we are talking about free speech, well I will teach you a little about free speech since I knew the first amendment can be very confusing for conservatives like the new conservative darling Christine O’Donnell. When Americans refer to free speech they are talking about the protection guaranteed by the first amendment of the constitution. This right is also guaranteed by many state constitutions, many of which are more broadly implemented. for our purposes here we only need the federal wording which is " “ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ” . The first amendment refers to government not private companies. For instance you can be fired for expressing your freedom of speech but you cannot be arrest, except under circumstances. The exceptions to freedom of speech are child pornography laws, the miller test for obscenity, speech that incites imminent danger (like yelling fire in a movie theater), and regulation of commercial speech such as advertising. It does not cover hate speech, racism or sexism in public areas. No where does it say that a private TV or radio host from walking way from bigoted guests spewing their foul hatred for people of color. The ironic part here is Bill O'rielly is notorious for turning off peoples microphone when he doesn’t like what they are saying which is his right to do. Thanks for trying little bear but once again you have shown your total lack of understanding for American Democracy but I guess when you live in a Neotard fox news bubble you have no need for cognitive thinking or understanding of federal/ constitutional law. heres a link to the constitution so you can read up on it before you post next time. ;D www.usconstitution.net/const.html
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Post by Rob G on Oct 23, 2010 19:39:13 GMT -5
I made 3 posts and they were all friendly. So I dont see how you could justify shitting on me. And you cant visit larrys shit back on me. Thats not fair. But in reading back I see what happened. You and larry are having a level 10 bloodfued argument. I am trying to debate at level 2. So to handle us both you have to change gears dramatically like
To larry' Fuck you, you fringe liberal shit bag
Rob' Interesting point man but I strongly disagree.
Its just too much. Me and larry are not coming from the same place but from your perspective it may seem like that. I dont know where it leaves this deal. I am not gonna fight like you guys do.
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Post by Rob G on Oct 23, 2010 19:42:02 GMT -5
I am still marinating on the whole justifying descrimination against muslum by ackowledging that we are under siege from those people. Its heavy duty stuff and i have not forgotten about it. Just need more time to think it through.
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Post by Ken on Oct 23, 2010 20:20:45 GMT -5
OK, true enough Rob. Larry and I are having a level 10 on the Fajita Scale tornado fight. True. I don't want to disparage you. I really don't want to disparage Larry either, truly. I sense that you are the calm among the twisting debris that Larry and I are throwing around and perhaps you got hit with a little shrapnel, perhaps a small twig in comparison with what Larry and I are hurling at each other. Even a tornado can turn an innocuous object into deadly ammunition.
However, I refuse to accept that I began this conflagration. Larry has been posting on FB and here repeatedly, attempting to totally destroy conservatives and me by extension. I ignored it for quite some time, months in fact, but now I'm drawn into the debate. His comments have been insulting and debasing, and that was before I joined the debate. They got worse once I did.
To be fair, you agreed with Larry on this board and thus joined his side. This doesn't entitle you to the same treatment as Larry, but if you're going to agree with him, then doesn't that risk making you a party to his incendiary comments? How am I supposed to take that? Especially when I am being called a "Neotard." I mean, the idiot just keeps making up words!!
Is this really a debate when your talking to a blithering idiot? (Larry, not you).
By the way, you said "Fuck you, you fringe liberal shit bag." Not me, but I like it.
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Post by Ken on Oct 23, 2010 20:32:13 GMT -5
Larry, Larry, Larry. Clever, very clever. However, your smokescreen of throwing up the first ammendment cannot cover up the fact that liberals have shown their true selves as racist, free-speech-destroying, hipocrites. Nice try though. If my people had betrayed me like yours did, I might be desperate enough to invoke the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, Rob's Fantasy Football League Rules, even a Wendy's menu in an effort to try to regain some semblance of self-respect. Unfortunately, even a Frosty and a bowl of piping hot chilli won't save you. Sorry buddy, you lose. You lose BIG TIME!!
By the way, say goodbye to NPR. O'Reilly is calling for the government to stop funding them with our tax dollars and once that happens, they gonna go down the tubes just like Air America. Amazing that nobody listened to them either huh? I wonder why?
And one more thing, you can keep typing in the name Christine O'Donnell all you want, nobody gives a shit about her. Its just one more piece of useless information you've latched onto that nobody cares about.
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Post by spiderfate on Oct 24, 2010 9:10:19 GMT -5
once again your just showing your conservative ignorance. freedom of speech doesn't mean everyone has to sit around listening to the silly lies conservative traitor pig say. if your saying the democrats in the federal government have passed laws to hinder freedom of speech please give specific examples. other wise admit your talking out of your ass like usual.
oh yeah stop taking out your conservative hate on rob
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Post by Ken on Oct 24, 2010 10:35:22 GMT -5
I think I'm going to have a nice vanilla Frosty and a tasty bowl of chilly "right about now, funk soul brother."
And I think I will stop taking out my conservative hatred for liberal bottom-feeders on Rob. Your misguided philosophy seems to be taking up all my time.
Man, I thought I raised you better than this. I blame this all on your parents for moving you up to Beacon. I should've locked you in my basement until you were ready to go out in the world on your own. You need tough love. I'll come over and give you a hug.
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Post by spiderfate on Oct 24, 2010 21:28:11 GMT -5
you keep saying liberals are to politically correct, when we are really just having basic human respect. just because a plumber did you wrong doesnt mean its ok to take it out on ever construction worker you meet. the problems in your life are not caused by muslims, minorities gays or liberals, so take responcibility for your own life and live and let live
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Post by Ken on Oct 25, 2010 16:04:35 GMT -5
You are right. I have been blaming others for far too long. ESPECIALLY PLUMBERS! THOSE BASTARDS! I ask them to come over and fix my pipes, and they install new kitchen cabinets! Bastards. I am an anti-plumb-ite. I'm sick and tired of all these plumbers coming over here and taking our jobs! And how dare they build a Roto-Rooter near the WTC site! That's blasphemy! I want a Constitutional Ammendment banning plumbers from marrying other plumbers! Its just UNNATURAL!! And the way they raise their prices, and charge extra for going under the house?! OUTRAGEOUS!!
But perhaps I need to let go my fear of plumbers and their quixotic ways. You know, I feel catharthic. This admission, this confession, has really taken a load of weight off my shoulders. Thanx buddy. You are the best. I love you guys.
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Post by Ken on Oct 25, 2010 16:07:02 GMT -5
Seriously though. This debate, if you can call it that anymore, has gotten very heated, and I just would like to sincerely apologize for the remarks that I have made that have offended anyone.
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